Who on either side of the 'war/no war' argument really gives a damn about the Iraqis?

I don't. At least not anymore than their so-called Arab brothers who're just fine it seems with Saddam's barbarism.

I think most everyone else doesn't either - it's just a stand to make us look good and the other look bad.

I'm not sold on the idea of sacrificing young americans and billions of dollars to afford tribes with a culture and morality still grounded in 15th century a shot at democracy. I don't think they're up to it.

Hell, most Americans aren't really up to it - they're just lucky!